reb_hillel ([info]reb_hillel) wrote,
@ 2007-09-19 21:18:00
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In today's Yediot Acharonot newspaper
I saw this in today's Yediot Acharonot newspaper!

Translation:

The blessings [to be said] when seeing
The king messiah
The Lubavitcher Rebbe
He is the god
There is none other than him!
(From the responsa Lev Chaim part 2 chapter 42)
Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, redeemer of Israel.
Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who let us live, and sustained us, and brought us to this time.
Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who gave of His wisdom to those who fear Him.
Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, who gave of His honour to those who fear Him.
Blessed are You, Lord our God, King of the universe, wise One of the secrets.

May our master, teacher, and ruler, king messiah, live forever!
It is possible to pray to the Lubavitcher Rebbe, the Holy One blessed be He
And it is desirable to travel to the Messiah's house, 770, in Brooklyn
Which is actually the third temple.
Meir Menachem Barnes, spokesman for the Messiah
050-8531446

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[info]ploni_bat_ploni
2007-09-19 07:37 pm UTC (link)
OMG!!!!!

And they call *me* an Apikores for being Conservative?
Atleast I believe in One G-d and His holy Torah.
I'm speechless. This is just... out of this world!

I'm sorry, but is it fair to say that these people are no longer Jews?
Even if he were Moshiach, then why would we pray to Moshiach?
Crazy... and sick.

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[info]reb_hillel
2007-09-19 07:57 pm UTC (link)
I've said that messianic chabadniks (which is just about all of them these days) are apikorsim, for a long time. Yes, it's Christianity.

But, to be fair, I think in this case it's obvious that this wasn't published by a real chabadnik. A real chabadnik wouldn't print אדני and אלהינו in a newspaper like that. It's likely anti-chabad propeganda. I dunno. Then again, even if they didn't print it, they believe it.

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[info]ploni_bat_ploni
2007-09-19 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Woah, what a sick and twisted world we live in. Imitation is nasty, even though Messianic Chabad's nasty too!

Ugh... that's true, regarding G-d's names in the print. Hmm.

Even so, I wonder: what is the dividing line between normal Chabad and messianic Chabad? What's the ratio?

Welcome to Jewish Bizarroville, I guess.

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[info]twostepsfwd
2007-09-19 10:32 pm UTC (link)
Jewish Bizaroville - Totally.

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[info]ladyhawke_wings
2007-09-21 05:01 pm UTC (link)
After cleaning up the vomit that the above poster induced in me, I feel bound to disagree that "just about all" of the chabdniks are messianics. Having recently spent some time in Crown Heights, I can even say that a good percentage of even those who might be considered messianics do not believe the garbage printed on that poster. Baruch Hashem.

That said, the split is definitely nasty and divisive.

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[info]ploni_bat_ploni
2007-09-19 07:40 pm UTC (link)
Uhhh... isn't this technically Christianity??

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[info]isolani
2007-09-20 12:59 pm UTC (link)
No, it isn`t.

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[info]spin0za1
2007-09-20 03:17 pm UTC (link)
yes it is. cause christ means messiah.

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[info]isolani
2007-09-20 03:19 pm UTC (link)
True, but there is already one of those, and I`m quite sure it's not the fella in the newspaper ad.

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[info]spin0za1
2007-09-20 08:42 pm UTC (link)
There already is one of those? Really?

Christians (the ones commonly known as Christians) believe that there is already one of those. Non-Christians, like us, don't believe that that guy is messiah. That is why we don't call that guy "christ." If the guy in the newspaper were Greek speaking, or if his followers were Greek speakers, he would be called christ. As is, these Lubuvitchers, the ones who believe that he is the messiah, believe that he is what is called, in Greek, "christ." So technically, they are "christians," they just believe that another guy is "christ."

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[info]isolani
2007-09-21 08:58 am UTC (link)
Perhaps we could argue then that even though Lubavitchers are christians, they aren`t Christians.

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[info]loyehudhara
2007-10-17 04:24 am UTC (link)
or form a distinct but similar religion best described as Chabidians, since xtianty is the belief that "jesus" was the moshiach and the chabad messianics believe that their now defunt rebbe is the moshiach....or something along those lines

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[info]awful_dynne
2007-09-20 02:58 am UTC (link)
Wow. I hope it isn't real, because saying that someone's private residence is the third temple and that one should pray to him seems to be over the top.

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